Lesson 17c Nonrebukable sinner – Rebbi vs. others – Difference btwn rebukable and nonrebukable

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Lesson #17c

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How to deal with a
sinner who doesn’t take rebuke


  1. What if my friend who committed a sin doesn’t take kindly
    to people who rebuke him?
  1. You should not rebuke him.  People who hate those who
    rebuke them for their sins, are likely to be repeat offenders. Therefore,
    you may reveal what you’ve witnessed; but only to the following people:
    1. Bais Din (Jewish court), under the following conditions:

You have another witness with you.  (If you testify
alone, Bais Din is not allowed to believe you; therefore, there is no benefit,
and doing so would be considered loshon horah.)

Your intentions should be for the sake of heaven
and not out of previous hatred you may have for this fellow.

Bais Din must rebuke him in a private manner.

    1. The sinner’s relatives under the following conditions:

Your intentions are for the good of the sinner.

His relative will believe you and rebuke him. (Note:
most often, relatives will not believe you and telling  them will only result
in hard feelings and strife)

His relative can influence him for the good.

    1. The sinner’s Rebbi so that he may distance himself from
      his wayward student until he repents; under the following conditions.

Your intentions are for the sake of heaven.

You are trustworthy in his eyes as 2 witnesses.

He is a private individual who keeps things to
himself.  Note: If the Rebbi has influence over his student, even if he is
not a private individual and word may get out, it might be permissible for you
to reveal to him what you’ve witnessed since your intentions are for the
benefit of your friend and not to degrade him.

The difference
between a Rebbi and others


  1. You said that I may tell his Rebbi so that he may distance
    himself from his wayward student.  Why can’t I tell others so that they too
    may distance themselves from this sinner?
  1. Since it’s possible that he may have repented he still
    must be treated as a regular Jew; therefore, you may not cause him any unjustified
    harm.  If you would publicize his deed to the general populace, they are
    likely to harbor ill feelings towards him, even after he has repented.  Not
    so, his Rebbi; once it becomes clear that he has repented; his Rebbi will
    welcome him back with opened arms.


difference between a rebukable fellow and a non-rebukable one


  1. Yesterday, you mentioned that if someone commits a common knowledge
    sin, you may not tell anyone.  Today, you are saying that you may tell
    certain people.  What’s the difference?
  1. In yesterday’s case, the sinner was a rebukable fellow,
    therefore, there is hope that through your rebuke alone, he will change
    his ways.  However, today’s case is dealing with a fellow who doesn’t take
    kindly to rebuke; therefore, there is no alternative but to tell people
    who might wield influence over him.


This section is
formatted as a conversation between Oded and Menaseh.   Oded is encouraging his
friend Menaseh to be more careful in guarding his tongue from evil speech.  The
thoughts in this section are primarily based on the sefer, Shmiras Haloshon.

Oded:  The posuk in Mishlei states: “If you seek it
like money and like hidden treasures you search for it, then you will
understand the fear of heaven”.  People would generally prefer a steady and
consistent income, even if it’s only a small amount, than a large sum that’s inconsistent.

Menaseh:  Assuming that’s true, what’s the point?

Oded:  I would say that the mitzvah of guarding your
tongue can yield profits that are more consistent than many mitzvos.

Menaseh:  How so?

Oded:  Well, think about it, the mitzvah of guarding your
tongue can be fulfilled when you’re sitting at home or in Shul; when you are
walking in the street or are at a gathering and you see people talking about inappropriate
matters and distance yourself.  This mitzvah you can fulfilled from the moment
you awaken in the morning until the time you go to sleep in the evening.

Menaseh:  It’s probably one of the more profitable
mitzvos as well.

Oded:  That’s correct!  So it turns out that this
mitzvah can yield a high profit on a consistent basis.

Menaseh:  How does this tie back to the posuk from Mishlei
that you quoted?

Oded:  Just as when one tries to earn money he seeks
consistency and profit; so to, when seeking to take hold of a mitzvah one
should look for consistency and high profit.

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1) Sefer Chofetz Chaim Sec. 1 Chap. 4 Par.
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